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Card0 — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 11:24:27 GMT

Cardigan Paradeau

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	"wait you’re telling me you guys didn’t have to send nudes to @Card0 to get added to the discord???"		"wait you’re telling me you guys didn’t have to send nudes to @Card0 to get added to the discord???"

			"would you suckle on her blackcurrents"

	== [[Boba]] ==		== [[Boba]] ==
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	"divided by racism united by standing up against the Israeli government"		"divided by racism united by standing up against the Israeli government"

			"as a single person i hope every couple that celebrates this so-called "holiday" do so privately"

			"Hi everyone, I'd like to once again introduce myself to this server.

			Name: 掘柑掘桔掘柑桔掘雞掘骨掘龜骨掘完雞骨掘柑桔掘完雞骨掘龜骨 Hobbies: 掘柑桔、掘雞骨、掘龜骨 Language: 廣東話急口令 preferred Dislikes: People not being able to read my name correctly, especially the server owner"
	== [[Cado]] ==		== [[Cado]] ==
	"segregationgag"		"segregationgag"
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	"i should say "go vote and i will give you free card0 maid pics""		"i should say "go vote and i will give you free card0 maid pics""

			"Someone’s gonna be like “my dad was in a threesome with Carrie lam and her husband”

	== [[catgirlmutant]] ==		== [[catgirlmutant]] ==
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	"YOU COME INTO MY HOUSE. [neco arc emoji]ME. AND CALL ME GAY?"		"YOU COME INTO MY HOUSE. [neco arc emoji]ME. AND CALL ME GAY?"

			"ure not a chud"-Card0

			"fuck you Card0"-Coom

	== [[Darwin]] ==		== [[Darwin]] ==
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	== [[Hill]] ==		== [[Hill]] ==
	"bachelors of rawdogging"		"bachelors of rawdogging"

			"i can finally ask card0 what direction he wipes now""

			"when im just fucking around with a fake head"

	== [[ImMcNutty]] ==		== [[ImMcNutty]] ==
	"HE USED MY LINE"		"HE USED MY LINE"

			== [[Isabelle]] ==
			"This looks like something you'd see in the liminal space. What is it called, the bathrooms?"

	== [[Jasper]] ==		== [[Jasper]] ==
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	"Free Palpatine"		"Free Palpatine"

			"what's your crystal gonna do next to my pistol, huh"

	== [[Luminous]] ==		== [[Luminous]] ==
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	"I am on a bus. I am not winning nor will I get flesh of the cluck or baaaah"		"I am on a bus. I am not winning nor will I get flesh of the cluck or baaaah"

			== [[Raymond]] ==
			"What in the isabelle"

	== [[Rin]] ==		== [[Rin]] ==
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	"Tell me he is autistic without actually telling me he is autistic."		"Tell me he is autistic without actually telling me he is autistic."

			"She’ll become Disabelled"

	== [[Sakana]] ==		== [[Sakana]] ==
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	We'll fight for the savings, we'll honor your rewards"		We'll fight for the savings, we'll honor your rewards"

			"I was at the sauna today and there was a older woman in there with her friends talking about how the CIA and Americans are responsible for spreading subliminal brainwaves causing the Australian populace to become "more feminine and trans" and that those things didn't exist 50 years ago, but then in the same conversation talked very fondly and respectfully about her transmasc son and transfem GF, correctly referring to them as a straight couple as well as speaking normally about his hobbies and job ect and her friend group all were respectful about it. She thinks that the Americans are sending feminine brainwaves all across the world so they could more easily puppet foreign nations and governments"

	== [[Yuma]] ==		== [[Yuma]] ==

History of Hongkongggag

Card0 — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 06:37:37 GMT

Outreach Era (January 2026-Present)

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	Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Salami, Joyce, Boba		Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Salami, Joyce, Boba

	Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro, zt, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba, ~~Livie~~, Chris, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb, Blep, Hill, Aurelia		Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro, zt, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba, Salami, Chris, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb, Blep, Hill, Aurelia, Sugar, Raymond

	Promotions: Blep (March 2026), Hill, Aurelia (April 2026)		Promotions: Blep (March 2026), Hill, Aurelia (April 2026), Sugar (May 2026), Raymond (June 2026)

	Resignations: Livie, Greentea (March 2026), Nigel (April 2026)		Resignations: Livie, Greentea (March 2026), Nigel (April 2026)
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	its sad that i wont be able to fulfill my plan of taking over the server when cardo dies of stress bcs of us in a few years but honestly, this place is a shithole i ain't want it obviously i won't be leaving so if there's any events fun enough i will join. hit me up if u play val on hk servers or watch vct. thanks to staff and everyone for a very, very good four years. glory to yuutopia.</blockquote>In addition, reforms to the mod nomination process were passed with members now allowed to self-nominate, so long as they had backing from two members. [[Aurelia]] and [[Hill]] would also be promoted around the same time albeit under the old system, while [[Blep]] was promoted a month earlier.		its sad that i wont be able to fulfill my plan of taking over the server when cardo dies of stress bcs of us in a few years but honestly, this place is a shithole i ain't want it obviously i won't be leaving so if there's any events fun enough i will join. hit me up if u play val on hk servers or watch vct. thanks to staff and everyone for a very, very good four years. glory to yuutopia.</blockquote>In addition, reforms to the mod nomination process were passed with members now allowed to self-nominate, so long as they had backing from two members. [[Aurelia]] and [[Hill]] would also be promoted around the same time albeit under the old system, while [[Blep]] was promoted a month earlier.

			Later on in May and June respectively, [[Saltysugarr]] and [[Raymond]] would be promoted to Moderator, with Sugar being one of the fastest members to go from Citizen to Moderator since 2022.

	=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===		=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===
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	=== Diaspora Advisory Groups ===		=== Diaspora Advisory Groups ===
	In May Card0 created new diaspora advisory groups for the Canadian, British and American Hong Kong diasporas respectively, while the pre-existing Sydneyggag chat was rennamed into the Australian diaspora advisory group.		In May, Card0 created new diaspora advisory groups for the Canadian, British and American Hong Kong diasporas respectively, while the pre-existing Sydneyggag chat was rennamed into the Australian diaspora advisory group. The British group in particular, was a de-facto successor of the resurgence-era Bureau of British Affairs.

			=== Follower Loss & Backrooms Collaboration ===
			In late May, Instagram began removing bot accounts and inactive followers, leading to Hongkongggag to experience almost daily follower losses for nearly two weeks, bringing the follower count down to 120K for two days. However, at the same time the page also collaborated with Movie Movie to promote the Backrooms movie: Hongkongggag's largest collaboration ever. Aside from a sponsored meme post ranking liminal spaces in Hong Kong, a ticket giveaway went live on June 3rd 2026, with 20 tickets up for grabs. This helped gradually restore the page's followers, bringing it back up to 120K.

	==References ==		==References ==

852 Resurgence

Card0 — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 06:28:53 GMT

Member Ranks

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	== Member Ranks ==		== Member Ranks ==
	The Attaché, Dignitary and ~~Senator ranks~~ are given to members by ranking up, which can be done by chatting more in the server. Vice is given manually to members of high trust, while Prestige is a special rank typically only given at server anniversaries, or for special cases.		The Attaché, Dignitary, Senator and Vice rranks are given to members by ranking up, which can be done by chatting more in the server. Vice is given manually to members of high trust, while Prestige is a special rank typically only given at server anniversaries, or for special cases.

	There are 6 main member ranks.		There are 6 main member ranks.

Admin

Card0 — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 06:27:28 GMT

List of Admins

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	\|2023 (Moderator)		\|2023 (Moderator)
	2024 (Admin)		2024 (Admin)
	\|Discord at large~~, Events, External Communications~~		\|Discord at large
	\|Active		\|Active
	\|-		\|-
	\|[[Salami]]		\|[[Salami]]*
	\|2021		\|2021
	\|2021 (Mediator->Moderator)		\|2021 (Mediator->Moderator)
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	\|2021 (Mediator->Moderator)		\|2021 (Mediator->Moderator)
	2026 (Admin)		2026 (Admin)
	\|Discord at large		\|Discord at large, Events
	\|Active		\|Active
	\|}		\|}

Staff Members

Card0 — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 06:26:32 GMT

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	This is a list of all staff members in [[852 Resurgence]].		This is a list of all staff members in [[852 Resurgence]].

	In total, there have been 38 staff members, residing in a total of 7 countries. As of ~~April~~ 2026, there are 25 staff members. Staff members are responsible for moderating the server, while also acting in an advisory role for all page affairs. Staff members are also expected to be role models to the community, and engage with it regularly in order to prevent a "staff crowd" rising and becoming more and more separate from the server at large.		In total, there have been 44 staff members, residing in a total of 7 countries. As of June 2026, there are 26 staff members. Staff members are responsible for moderating the server, while also acting in an advisory role for all page affairs. Staff members are also expected to be role models to the community, and engage with it regularly in order to prevent a "staff crowd" rising and becoming more and more separate from the server at large.

	In the past, staff members were promoted either via being handpicked by Card0, or were promoted via a closed vote within the staff team. Since November 2021, Staff members are promoted via popular vote from the community. Members can nominate other members for Staff, provided they meet the requirements, in which Card0 would either allow or reject the nomination to go through the voting process.		In the past, staff members were promoted either via being handpicked by Card0, or were promoted via a closed vote within the staff team. Since November 2021, Staff members are promoted via popular vote from the community. Members can nominate other members for Staff, provided they meet the requirements, in which Card0 would either allow or reject the nomination to go through the voting process.
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	\|December 1st 2024-Present		\|December 1st 2024-Present
	\|Ambassador		\|Ambassador
			\|-
			\|Admin
			\|[[Salami]]
			\|Hong Kong
			\|UTC+8
			\|2021
			\|April 2021 (temporary)/May 2021 (permanent)-Present
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	\|-		\|-
	\|Admin		\|Admin
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	\|2023		\|2023
	\|August 22nd 2023-Present		\|August 22nd 2023-Present
	\|
	\|-
	~~\|Admin/Discord Admin~~
	~~\|[[Salami]]~~
	~~\|Hong Kong~~
	~~\|UTC+8~~
	~~\|2021~~
	~~\|April 2021 (temporary)/May 2021 (permanent)-Present~~
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	\|Technocrats		\|Technocrats
	\|Pro-Study Focus Policies, Moderate Technocracy		\|Pro-Study Focus Policies, Moderate Technocracy, Teechnocratic Liberalism
	\|Polaris, Blep, Sugar		\|Polaris, Blep, Sugar
	\|-		\|-
	\|Progressives		\|Progressives
	\|Progressivism, Social Democracy, Left-Wing Populism, ~~Moderate~~ Reformism, ~~Eco-Socialism~~		\|Progressivism, Social Democracy, Left-Wing Populism, Reformism,
	\|~~Astra~~, Salami, Sumii, Aurelia		\|Bossuuu, Salami, Sumii, Aurelia, Raymond
	\|-		\|-
	\|Yellow Liberals		\|Yellow Liberals
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	\|Broad Left		\|Broad Left
	\|Left-Wing Populism, Democratic Socialism, Reformist Marxism		\|Left-Wing Populism, Democratic Socialism, Reformist Marxism, Eco-Socialism
	\|~~Bossuuu~~, Tuck, Syntax		\|Astra, Tuck, Syntax
	\|-		\|-
	\|Libertarian Conservatives		\|Libertarian Conservatives
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	\|2021		\|2021
	\|March 16th 2021-June 6th 2022		\|March 16th 2021-June 6th 2022
	\|Resigned voluntarily; got too heated during a debate and was given a probation by Card0.		\|Resigned voluntarily; got too heated during a debate and was given a probation by Card0 but instead decided to resign
	\|Currently Veteran		\|Currently Veteran
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	\|2019		\|2019
	\|Early 2019-December 1st 2024		\|Early 2019-December 1st 2024
	\|Resigned voluntarily; real life reasons, disagreements on the direction of the server, & disconnect from community		\|Resigned voluntarily; real life reasons, disagreements on the direction of the server & disconnect from community
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	\|2022		\|2022
	\|February 6th 2022-May 30th 2025		\|February 6th 2022-May 30th 2025
	\|Resigned voluntarily; not as active on social media		\|Resigned voluntarily; not as active on social media overall
	\|Currently Veteran		\|Currently Veteran
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	\|September 12th 2022-March 30th 2026		\|September 12th 2022-March 30th 2026
	\|Resigned voluntarily; real life ~~reasons~~		\|Resigned voluntarily; too busy with real life.
	\|Currently Veteran		\|Currently Veteran
	\|}		\|}

Raymond

Card0 — Thu, 04 Jun 2026 15:06:19 GMT

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{{User infobox|gender=He/Him|rank=Moderator|loc=Hong Kong|timezone=UTC+8}}

Raymond is a member of [[852 Resurgence]]. As ofJune 4th 2026, he is also a Moderator. He is also the Functional Affiliate for Rural Affairs.
==Trivia==

[[Category:Members]] [[Category:Staff]]

Moderator

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	\|Mediator		\|Mediator
			\|-
			\|[[Raymond]]
			\|2025
			\|2026
			\|Discord at large
			\|Active
			\|
	\|}		\|}

Staff Members

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	\|April 12th 2023-Present		\|April 12th 2023-Present
			\|Functional Affiliate
			\|-
			\|Moderator
			\|[[Raymond]]
			\|United Kingdom
			\|UTC+1
			\|2025
			\|June 4th 2026-Present
	\|Functional Affiliate		\|Functional Affiliate
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852 Resurgence

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	\|Hong Kong		\|Hong Kong
			\|-
			\|Moderator
			\|[[Raymond]]
			\|2025
			\|2026
			\|UK
	\|-		\|-
	\|Moderator		\|Moderator

History of Hongkongggag

Card0 — Fri, 29 May 2026 10:41:24 GMT

Outreach Era (January 2026-Present)

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	* [[dunkleosteus_fan_2.0_59404]]		* [[dunkleosteus_fan_2.0_59404]]
	* [[Pengyou]]		* [[Pengyou]]
			* [[Isabelle]]
			* [[fake]]
			* [[uych_620]]

	=== Scheduled Events Policy ===		=== Scheduled Events Policy ===
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	=== Channel Reorganisation ===		=== Channel Reorganisation ===
	Throughout February and March, some channels were moved around or deleted to avoid clutter, with the school-specific channels being moved to their own category, while the interests channel was split, with the latter being done after a discussion on how to increase the usage of lesser used interest channels. Moreover, the driving-motoring and general-hobbies channels would be retired, with the latter replaced with a forum. This inadvertedly had the effect of improving member retention as with less clutter, more members were keen to stay and chat.		Throughout February and March, some channels were moved around or deleted to avoid clutter, with the school-specific channels being moved to their own category, while the interests channel was split, with the latter being done after a discussion on how to increase the usage of lesser used interest channels. Moreover, the driving-motoring and general-hobbies channels would be retired, with the latter replaced with a forum for specific hobbies that were too niche to deserve their own channel. This inadvertedly had the effect of improving member retention as with less clutter, more members were keen to stay and chat.

	=== Shadowban Crisis, New Moderators ===		=== Shadowban Crisis, New Moderators ===
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	=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===		=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===
	While the server had a history of new members looking to meetup in real life, this was restricted due to previous incidents. However after some discussions within Staff suggested by [[Boba]], reforms were put out for the community to vote on April 7th 2026 to relax the rules for 18+ members. The poll passed, and a hangout thread was created in the university-graduated channel.		While the server had a history of new members looking to meetup in real life, this was restricted due to previous incidents. However after some discussions within Staff suggested by [[Boba]], reforms were put out for the community to vote on April 7th 2026 to relax the rules for 18+ members. The poll passed, and a hangout thread was created in the university-graduated channel to help organize hangouts.

	=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===		=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===
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	=== The Seventh Rank ===		=== The Seventh Rank ===
	For the first time since early 2021, 852R would see the introduction of a new rank to the six rank system: Luminary, which was created after a poll on April 21st-22nd 2026. This new rank, colored poppy blue, would be ranked above Prestige, be appointed ad-hoc, while Vice would made into a rank that members could achieve via the YUU rewards system.		For the first time since early 2021, 852R would see the introduction of a new rank to the six rank system: Luminary, which was created after a poll on April 21st-22nd 2026. This new rank, colored poppy blue, would be ranked above Prestige, be appointed ad-hoc, while Vice would made into a rank that members could achieve via the YUU rewards system.

			=== Diaspora Advisory Groups ===
			In May Card0 created new diaspora advisory groups for the Canadian, British and American Hong Kong diasporas respectively, while the pre-existing Sydneyggag chat was rennamed into the Australian diaspora advisory group.

	==References ==		==References ==

Tolmo

Card0 — Fri, 22 May 2026 01:08:52 GMT

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	== Personality ==		== Personality ==
	Tolmo is a sociable, extroverted person who likes hanging out with other people. He enjoys company from others and prioritises spending time with friends over many things. He is a talkative, idealistic person that is very eager to strike up a conversation with other members, regardless of their familiarity with himself.

	Tolmo is often a contrarian and enjoys participating in debates. When a flaw is observed, Tolmo is seldom hesitant in pointing it out and pushes for reform. Tolmo is also extremely adamant in their views and often defends his points vicariously, sometimes to his own detriment. In spite of this, Tolmo enjoys taking on new perspectives and increasing his own knowledge, although he rarely admits this to other people in debate.

	~~Tolmo is very proud and slightly narcissistic. He often feels threatened and jealous when he sees others outperforming him. Tolmo can also become very insecure in the face of this.~~

	~~According to 16 Personalities, Tolmo is a Turbulent Campaigner (ENFP-T).~~

	=== Server Beliefs ===		=== Server Beliefs ===
	In terms of the community, Tolmo was often been likened to an opposition figure in the Staff team, prior to the promotion of several new staff members. He would advocate for clearer rules, as well as more loose standards on what free speech meant to the server, while also opposing the promotion of more staff members, believing that the Staff Team had enough people as it was. While he clashed with Card0 in the earlier years of the community, the two have cooled significantly since then and have had less and less disagreements.		In terms of the community, Tolmo was often been likened to an opposition figure in the Staff team, prior to the promotion of several new staff members. He would advocate for clearer rules, as well as more loose standards on what free speech meant to the server, while also opposing the promotion of more staff members, believing that the Staff Team had enough people as it was. While he clashed with Card0 in the earlier years of the community, the two have cooled significantly since then and have had less and less disagreements.
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	** "THEREALTOLMO" and "tolmoo" were created as the username "Tolmo" was unavailable on many websites, such as Fandom and Reddit.		** "THEREALTOLMO" and "tolmoo" were created as the username "Tolmo" was unavailable on many websites, such as Fandom and Reddit.
	** "cucuxt" comes from a Clash Royale account, when Tolmo randomly pressed inputs on his on-screen keyboard to create a dummy account for the game.		** "cucuxt" comes from a Clash Royale account, when Tolmo randomly pressed inputs on his on-screen keyboard to create a dummy account for the game.
	* Tolmo is aromantic.
	* Tolmo is a firm atheist.		* Tolmo is a firm atheist.
	* Tolmo was the first member to become a Chat Mod in The Resurgence		* Tolmo was the first member to become a Chat Mod in The Resurgence

Staff Members

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	\|Pro-Study Focus Policies, Moderate Technocracy		\|Pro-Study Focus Policies, Moderate Technocracy
	\|Polaris, Blep		\|Polaris, Blep, Sugar
	\|-		\|-
	\|Progressives		\|Progressives
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	\|2019		\|2019
	\|Early 2019-December 1st 2024		\|Early 2019-December 1st 2024
	\|Resigned voluntarily; real life reasons & disconnect from community		\|Resigned voluntarily; real life reasons, disagreements on the direction of the server, & disconnect from community
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	\|-		\|-

List of Ambassadors and Affiliates

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	\|Culture		\|Culture
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			\|-
			\|[[Linus]]
			\|Sports
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	\|-		\|-

History of Hongkongggag

Card0 — Mon, 11 May 2026 09:16:38 GMT

October-November Staff Crisis

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	== Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024) ==		== Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024) ==
	From April 2024, and increasingly from July-August 2024 onwards, several reforms and new ideas were put forward in regards to the community and page. However, this era would mark some drama in the server, especially among the Staff team as significant disagreements became commonplace. ~~An initial atmosphere of reform, with channel reorganizations~~, new ~~ambassador roles~~, ~~and the creation of a Patreon—masked deep fissures~~ within the ~~staff~~ team		From April 2024, and increasingly from July-August 2024 onwards, several reforms and new ideas were put forward in regards to the community and page. However, this era would mark some drama in the server, especially among the Staff team as significant disagreements became commonplace. Initial reforms, as well as new ideas, were soon overshadowed by conflict within the Staff team.

	'''Staff during this period:'''		'''Staff during this period:'''
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	=== [[October-November Staff Crisis]] ===		=== [[October-November Staff Crisis]] ===
	For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.		For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. It should be noted that the latter two staff were some of the most influential Staff, even more than the other Admins, so they held more sway over the direction of the server. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.

	However, this would change in October as within Staff, a concern had been raised by [[Boba]] on the status of underage moderators in the university-graduated channel. While that channel was not a 18+ NSFW channel, the nature of having minors in a channel designated for adults made Boba uncomfortable, who pitched it to Card0 IRL who sent it in Staff. This then caused a heated debate between flutters and Andi, with both members clashing over the status of minors, with [[Thoth]] agreeing with the proposed change, while [[Saera]] disagreed. As Boba initially raised the concern due to Saera texting in the channel for uni advice, flutters would threaten ~~all u18 staff members~~ with demotion if ~~they~~ continued to use the channel, which led to Andi clamping back hard, forcing other Staff like [[Zt]] to step in and calm the situation. At the time, Card0 was outside so he didn't see the message sent by flutters, and simply urged a message of calm before going back to ~~IRL activities~~. In the end, no poll was made in regards to the proposed change.		However, this would change in October as within Staff, a concern had been raised by [[Boba]] on the status of underage moderators in the university-graduated channel. While that channel was not a 18+ NSFW channel, the nature of having minors in a channel designated for adults made Boba uncomfortable, who pitched it to Card0 IRL who sent it in Staff. This then caused a heated debate between flutters and Andi, with both members clashing over the status of minors, with [[Thoth]] agreeing with the proposed change, while [[Saera]] disagreed. As Boba initially raised the concern due to Saera texting in the channel for uni advice, flutters would threaten Saera with demotion if she continued to use the channel, which led to Andi clamping back hard, forcing other Staff like [[Zt]] to step in and calm the situation. At the time, Card0 was outside so he didn't see the message sent by flutters, and simply urged a message of calm before going back to what he was doing in real life. In the end, no poll was made in regards to the proposed change.

	After the incident, Andi, with Card0 still upholding flutters as his designated successor (not helped by the fact that Card0 had not made it too clear on the exact arrangements of his step back), began to become more dissatisfied with his leadership. Saera would also come to agree, having aligned more with Andi over the course of her term as mod.		After the incident, Andi, with Card0 still upholding flutters as his designated successor (not helped by the fact that Card0 had not made it too clear on the exact arrangements of his step back), began to become more dissatisfied with his leadership. Saera would also come to agree, having aligned more with Andi over the course of her term as mod.

	While the situation in Staff may have remained cool in other times, October-November also marked a shift for the page and server with multiple warnings as well as a shift in the server's activity, though for the latter this had been a trend for a few months. On November 16th, following another argument between flutters and Andi, Andi and Saera began to ~~believe~~ that the server simply wasn't growing, and that massive reform was needed, which included better disciplinary communications, clearer moderation guidelines, as well as less bias overall. There were also discussions about thinking about how big the server needed to be, with Andi and Saera thinking that the server had grown too big with some Staff feeling alienated from some members in the community. Another reform, later included, involved stricter citizen entry requirements. With Andi and Saera seeing that only older members remained the most active, three proposals were later made:		While the situation in Staff may have remained cool in other times, October-November also marked a shift for the page and server with multiple warnings as well as a shift in the server's activity, though for the latter this had been a trend for a few months. On November 16th, following another argument between flutters and Andi, Andi and Saera began to believ e that the server simply wasn't growing, and that massive reform was needed, which included better disciplinary communications, clearer moderation guidelines, as well as less bias overall. There were also discussions about thinking about how big the server needed to be, with Andi and Saera thinking that the server had grown too big with some Staff feeling alienated from some members in the community. Another reform, later included, involved stricter citizen entry requirements. With Andi and Saera seeing that only older members remained the most active, three proposals were later made:

	# Reform the server and make it appeal to a wider range of people.		# Reform the server and make it appeal to a wider range of people.

Hongkongggag

Card0 — Sat, 09 May 2026 15:00:04 GMT

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