Chinese Name Controversy - Revision history

Flutters: she/her flutters :3

2024-05-10T14:46:49Z

she/her flutters :3

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	Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀 was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"		Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀 was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"
	==Disagreement==		==Disagreement==
	flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters ~~themselves~~ would not like to use their legal English name and resort to ~~their~~ Chinese legal name's nickname of 希希 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.		flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters herself would not like to use their legal English name and resort to her Chinese legal name's nickname of 希希 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.

	Another argument is to change ones keyboard as it isn't something hard to do. In demonstration, flutters pinged every non-English name (except for one that was in a weird ASCII font). [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Andi andi] also supported flutters' argument as changing a keyboard is not so hard, and even so you could just use mobile to ping them if the Chinese keyboard on PC wasn't that good. Others also joined in supporting the claim that one could just handwrite the Chinese character without knowing any Chinese.		Another argument is to change ones keyboard as it isn't something hard to do. In demonstration, flutters pinged every non-English name (except for one that was in a weird ASCII font). [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Andi andi] also supported flutters' argument as changing a keyboard is not so hard, and even so you could just use mobile to ping them if the Chinese keyboard on PC wasn't that good. Others also joined in supporting the claim that one could just handwrite the Chinese character without knowing any Chinese.
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	Card0 then put a poll, with melody (alt of flutters) showing arguments from both sides which got deleted and restored.		Card0 then put a poll, with melody (alt of flutters) showing arguments from both sides which got deleted and restored.
	===Going overboard===		===Going overboard===
	flutters then kept arguing because for someone to change their whole identity just for one person who is not willing to change their keyboard just to ping them seemed ludicrous to ~~them~~. During that time, flutters was also on probation and Card0 threatened that, [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854383390949376 "i am this close to extending your probation right now"]		flutters then kept arguing because for someone to change their whole identity just for one person who is not willing to change their keyboard just to ping them seemed ludicrous to her. During that time, flutters was also on probation and Card0 threatened that, [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854383390949376 "i am this close to extending your probation right now"]

	flutters then responded with [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369 "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point"]		flutters then responded with [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369 "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point"]
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	The chat was brought to another topic by andi, "should card0 be impeached for saying char siu bao (is better than) hargow"		The chat was brought to another topic by andi, "should card0 be impeached for saying char siu bao (is better than) hargow"

	The poll ended in ~~favor~~ of Chinese names, with a ratio of 22:3.		The poll ended in favour of Chinese names, with a ratio of 22:3.

	The new compromise was that "all Chinese names will have the prefix 'ZH'".		The new compromise was that "all Chinese names will have the prefix 'ZH'".

Flutters: /* Kanji and Chinese? */

2023-10-16T10:00:30Z

Kanji and Chinese?

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	===Further Errors===		===Further Errors===
	On March 21 2022, a user changed their nickname to 鈴木愛理. Card0 put the prefix ZH even if it was intended to be Kanji.		On March 21 2022, a user changed their nickname to 鈴木愛理. Card0 put the prefix ZH even if it was intended to be Kanji.

			The resolution has transferred to using the prefix 'JP' for Japanese names.
	==Present Day==		==Present Day==
	[[File:JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH..png\|thumb\|JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH.]]		[[File:JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH..png\|thumb\|JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH.]]

Flutters at 09:59, 16 October 2023

2023-10-16T09:59:05Z

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	[[File:ZHRemove.png\|thumb\|ZH Prefix Removed from user on 10th of October 2023]]		[[File:ZHRemove.png\|thumb\|ZH Prefix Removed from user on 10th of October 2023]]
	Users with the ZH prefix in their nickname and have not changed their nickname have just been reinstated to their original names on the 10th of October 2023.		Users with the ZH prefix in their nickname and have not changed their nickname have just been reinstated to their original names on the 10th of October 2023.

			Prior to this change, members most likely did not know about their nickname being changed as it was forcefully added, and with such, despite their name being changed, their nickname would remain with the ZH prefix and their old username.

	==References==		==References==

Jasper: fixed errors

2023-10-10T21:39:27Z

fixed errors

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	Card0 then put a poll, with melody (alt of flutters) showing arguments from both sides which got deleted and restored.		Card0 then put a poll, with melody (alt of flutters) showing arguments from both sides which got deleted and restored.
	===Going overboard===		===Going overboard===
	flutters then kept arguing because for someone to change their whole identity just for one person who is not willing to change their keyboard just to ping them seemed ludicrous to them. During that time, flutters was also on probation and Card0 threatened that, ~~"i am this close to extending your probation right now"<ref>~~https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854383390949376~~</ref>~~		flutters then kept arguing because for someone to change their whole identity just for one person who is not willing to change their keyboard just to ping them seemed ludicrous to them. During that time, flutters was also on probation and Card0 threatened that, [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854383390949376 "i am this close to extending your probation right now"]

	flutters then responded with ~~"extend it honey, me and andi have the same point<ref>~~https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369~~</ref>~~"		flutters then responded with [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369 "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point"]
	==Aftermath==		==Aftermath==
	[[File:Screenshot 2022-01-29 at 4.07.12 PM.png\|thumb\|海南雞飯's nickname after the new "Chinese Name" Rule]]		[[File:Screenshot 2022-01-29 at 4.07.12 PM.png\|thumb\|海南雞飯's nickname after the new "Chinese Name" Rule]]
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	==References==		==References==
	~~<references />~~

Flutters at 17:50, 10 October 2023

2023-10-10T17:50:32Z

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	Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀 was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"		Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀 was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"
	==Disagreement==		==Disagreement==
	flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters themselves would not like to use their legal English name and resort to their Chinese legal name's nickname of 烯烯 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.		flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters themselves would not like to use their legal English name and resort to their Chinese legal name's nickname of 希希 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.

	Another argument is to change ones keyboard as it isn't something hard to do. In demonstration, flutters pinged every non-English name (except for one that was in a weird ASCII font). [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Andi andi] also supported flutters' argument as changing a keyboard is not so hard, and even so you could just use mobile to ping them if the Chinese keyboard on PC wasn't that good. Others also joined in supporting the claim that one could just handwrite the Chinese character without knowing any Chinese.		Another argument is to change ones keyboard as it isn't something hard to do. In demonstration, flutters pinged every non-English name (except for one that was in a weird ASCII font). [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Andi andi] also supported flutters' argument as changing a keyboard is not so hard, and even so you could just use mobile to ping them if the Chinese keyboard on PC wasn't that good. Others also joined in supporting the claim that one could just handwrite the Chinese character without knowing any Chinese.
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	flutters then responded with "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point<ref>https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369</ref>"		flutters then responded with "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point<ref>https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369</ref>"
	==Aftermath==		==Aftermath==
	[[File:~~海南雞飯~~.~~webp~~\|thumb\|海南雞飯's nickname after the new "Chinese Name" Rule]]		[[File:Screenshot 2022-01-29 at 4.07.12 PM.png\|thumb\|海南雞飯's nickname after the new "Chinese Name" Rule]]
	The chat was brought to another topic by andi, "should card0 be impeached for saying char siu bao (is better than) hargow"		The chat was brought to another topic by andi, "should card0 be impeached for saying char siu bao (is better than) hargow"

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	The new compromise was that "all Chinese names will have the prefix 'ZH'".		The new compromise was that "all Chinese names will have the prefix 'ZH'".
	==Kanji and Chinese?==		==Kanji and Chinese?==
	[[File:~~ZHJPError~~.~~webp~~\|thumb\|Japanese name mistaken as ZH ]]		[[File:Japanese name mistaken as ZH.png\|thumb\|Japanese name mistaken as ZH]]
	One user was named entirely in Japanese. Their name was changed in the process even if their name was not fully in another language, and that it wasn't even Chinese. The error was changed shortly after.		One user was named entirely in Japanese. Their name was changed in the process even if their name was not fully in another language, and that it wasn't even Chinese. The error was changed shortly after.
	===Further Errors===		===Further Errors===
	On March 21 2022, a user changed their nickname to 鈴木愛理. Card0 put the prefix ZH even if it was intended to be Kanji.		On March 21 2022, a user changed their nickname to 鈴木愛理. Card0 put the prefix ZH even if it was intended to be Kanji.
	==Present Day==		==Present Day==
	[[File:~~ZHJPCHange~~.~~webp~~\|thumb\|JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH. ]]		[[File:JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH..png\|thumb\|JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH.]]
	This is no longer enforced, funnily enough it is actually easy to ping people who have Chinese names with a Chinese keyboard, and that there is no need for a prefix as if there were too many ZH's you'd have an ocean of them and would have to type their name out in Chinese anyways.		This is no longer enforced, funnily enough it is actually easy to ping people who have Chinese names with a Chinese keyboard, and that there is no need for a prefix as if there were too many ZH's you'd have an ocean of them and would have to type their name out in Chinese anyways.

Flutters at 17:44, 10 October 2023

2023-10-10T17:44:24Z

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	The Chinese Name Controversy is a discussion in #general on the 26th of January 2022.		The Chinese Name Controversy is a discussion in #general on the 26th of January 2022.
	==Prior==		==Prior==
			[[File:Pingablename.png\|thumb\|202x202px\|Card0 commanding that a user with a Chinese name change their name to something 'pingable']]
	A user with a non-English name of "𒈙𒐫𒅃 𒈓𒀱𒅌𒁏𒈓𒀱𒀰⸻𒄡" joined, with no prior warning, [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Card0 Card0] kicked them. Both [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Flutters flutters] and [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Lieutenant_Quattro Lt. Quattro] showed their disapproval of the decision.		A user with a non-English name of "𒈙𒐫𒅃 𒈓𒀱𒅌𒁏𒈓𒀱𒀰⸻𒄡" joined, with no prior warning, [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Card0 Card0] kicked them. Both [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Flutters flutters] and [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Lieutenant_Quattro Lt. Quattro] showed their disapproval of the decision.

Flutters at 17:42, 10 October 2023

2023-10-10T17:42:42Z

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	Many prior the incident joined the server with non-English names.		Many prior the incident joined the server with non-English names.

	Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user ~~[http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/%E5%AA%BD%E5%92%AA%E8%A9%B1%E5%80%8B%E5%90%8D%E5%A4%AA%E9%95%B7%E6%9C%83%E6%9C%89%E5%82%BB%E4%BB%94%E8%B7%9F%E4%BD%8F%E8%AE%80~~ 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀] was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"		Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀 was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"
	==Disagreement==		==Disagreement==
	flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters themselves would not like to use their legal English name and resort to their Chinese legal name's nickname of 烯烯 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.		flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters themselves would not like to use their legal English name and resort to their Chinese legal name's nickname of 烯烯 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.

Flutters: Created page with " The Chinese Name Controversy is a discussion in #general on the 26th of January 2022. ==Prior== A user with a non-English name of "𒈙𒐫𒅃 𒈓𒀱𒅌𒁏𒈓𒀱𒀰⸻𒄡" joined, with no prior warning, [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Card0 Card0] kicked them. Both [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Flutters flutters] and [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Lieutenant_Quattro Lt. Quattro] showed their disapproval of the decision. Many prior the inciden..."

2023-10-10T17:42:29Z

Created page with " The Chinese Name Controversy is a discussion in #general on the 26th of January 2022. ==Prior== A user with a non-English name of "𒈙𒐫𒅃 𒈓𒀱𒅌𒁏𒈓𒀱𒀰⸻𒄡" joined, with no prior warning, [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Card0 Card0] kicked them. Both [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Flutters flutters] and [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Lieutenant_Quattro Lt. Quattro] showed their disapproval of the decision. Many prior the inciden..."

New page

The Chinese Name Controversy is a discussion in #general on the 26th of January 2022.
==Prior==
A user with a non-English name of "𒈙𒐫𒅃 𒈓𒀱𒅌𒁏𒈓𒀱𒀰⸻𒄡" joined, with no prior warning, [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Card0 Card0] kicked them. Both [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Flutters flutters] and [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Lieutenant_Quattro Lt. Quattro] showed their disapproval of the decision.

Many prior the incident joined the server with non-English names.

Recently, Card0 would change their names or forcefully have people change their names to something English. When a user joins 852Resurgence, a user is greeted by Card0 himself, and that includes a ping every time. This [https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935836934423588905 very welcome message] which welcomed user [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/%E5%AA%BD%E5%92%AA%E8%A9%B1%E5%80%8B%E5%90%8D%E5%A4%AA%E9%95%B7%E6%9C%83%E6%9C%89%E5%82%BB%E4%BB%94%E8%B7%9F%E4%BD%8F%E8%AE%80 媽咪話個名太長會有傻仔跟住讀] was what sparked flutters with the usage of the phrase "make your name pingable"
==Disagreement==
flutters brought Card0 to the concept of identity and if one prefers to be named in another language let it be. flutters themselves would not like to use their legal English name and resort to their Chinese legal name's nickname of 烯烯 and even threatened to change it in protest of Chinese names.

Another argument is to change ones keyboard as it isn't something hard to do. In demonstration, flutters pinged every non-English name (except for one that was in a weird ASCII font). [http://hongkongggag.fandom.com/wiki/Andi andi] also supported flutters' argument as changing a keyboard is not so hard, and even so you could just use mobile to ping them if the Chinese keyboard on PC wasn't that good. Others also joined in supporting the claim that one could just handwrite the Chinese character without knowing any Chinese.
===Polls===
Card0 then put a poll, with melody (alt of flutters) showing arguments from both sides which got deleted and restored.
===Going overboard===
flutters then kept arguing because for someone to change their whole identity just for one person who is not willing to change their keyboard just to ping them seemed ludicrous to them. During that time, flutters was also on probation and Card0 threatened that, "i am this close to extending your probation right now"<ref>https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854383390949376</ref>

flutters then responded with "extend it honey, me and andi have the same point<ref>https://discord.com/channels/567308609411612674/632404963254861851/935854417457082369</ref>"
==Aftermath==
[[File:海南雞飯.webp|thumb|海南雞飯's nickname after the new "Chinese Name" Rule]]
The chat was brought to another topic by andi, "should card0 be impeached for saying char siu bao (is better than) hargow"

The poll ended in favor of Chinese names, with a ratio of 22:3.

The new compromise was that "all Chinese names will have the prefix 'ZH'".
==Kanji and Chinese?==
[[File:ZHJPError.webp|thumb|Japanese name mistaken as ZH ]]
One user was named entirely in Japanese. Their name was changed in the process even if their name was not fully in another language, and that it wasn't even Chinese. The error was changed shortly after.
===Further Errors===
On March 21 2022, a user changed their nickname to 鈴木愛理. Card0 put the prefix ZH even if it was intended to be Kanji.
==Present Day==
[[File:ZHJPCHange.webp|thumb|JP Prefix given due to error in mistaking such as ZH. ]]
This is no longer enforced, funnily enough it is actually easy to ping people who have Chinese names with a Chinese keyboard, and that there is no need for a prefix as if there were too many ZH's you'd have an ocean of them and would have to type their name out in Chinese anyways.

=== Remains of the ZH prefix ===
[[File:ZHRemove.png|thumb|ZH Prefix Removed from user on 10th of October 2023]]
Users with the ZH prefix in their nickname and have not changed their nickname have just been reinstated to their original names on the 10th of October 2023.

==References==
<references />