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Card0: /* October-November Staff Crisis */

2026-05-11T09:16:38Z

October-November Staff Crisis

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	=== [[October-November Staff Crisis]] ===		=== [[October-November Staff Crisis]] ===
	For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.		For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. It should be noted that the latter two staff were some of the most influential Staff, even more than the other Admins, so they held more sway over the direction of the server. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.

	However, this would change in October as within Staff, a concern had been raised by [[Boba]] on the status of underage moderators in the university-graduated channel. While that channel was not a 18+ NSFW channel, the nature of having minors in a channel designated for adults made Boba uncomfortable, who pitched it to Card0 IRL who sent it in Staff. This then caused a heated debate between flutters and Andi, with both members clashing over the status of minors, with [[Thoth]] agreeing with the proposed change, while [[Saera]] disagreed. As Boba initially raised the concern due to Saera texting in the channel for uni advice, flutters would threaten ~~all u18 staff members~~ with demotion if ~~they~~ continued to use the channel, which led to Andi clamping back hard, forcing other Staff like [[Zt]] to step in and calm the situation. At the time, Card0 was outside so he didn't see the message sent by flutters, and simply urged a message of calm before going back to ~~IRL activities~~. In the end, no poll was made in regards to the proposed change.		However, this would change in October as within Staff, a concern had been raised by [[Boba]] on the status of underage moderators in the university-graduated channel. While that channel was not a 18+ NSFW channel, the nature of having minors in a channel designated for adults made Boba uncomfortable, who pitched it to Card0 IRL who sent it in Staff. This then caused a heated debate between flutters and Andi, with both members clashing over the status of minors, with [[Thoth]] agreeing with the proposed change, while [[Saera]] disagreed. As Boba initially raised the concern due to Saera texting in the channel for uni advice, flutters would threaten Saera with demotion if she continued to use the channel, which led to Andi clamping back hard, forcing other Staff like [[Zt]] to step in and calm the situation. At the time, Card0 was outside so he didn't see the message sent by flutters, and simply urged a message of calm before going back to what he was doing in real life. In the end, no poll was made in regards to the proposed change.

	After the incident, Andi, with Card0 still upholding flutters as his designated successor (not helped by the fact that Card0 had not made it too clear on the exact arrangements of his step back), began to become more dissatisfied with his leadership. Saera would also come to agree, having aligned more with Andi over the course of her term as mod.		After the incident, Andi, with Card0 still upholding flutters as his designated successor (not helped by the fact that Card0 had not made it too clear on the exact arrangements of his step back), began to become more dissatisfied with his leadership. Saera would also come to agree, having aligned more with Andi over the course of her term as mod.

	While the situation in Staff may have remained cool in other times, October-November also marked a shift for the page and server with multiple warnings as well as a shift in the server's activity, though for the latter this had been a trend for a few months. On November 16th, following another argument between flutters and Andi, Andi and Saera began to ~~believe~~ that the server simply wasn't growing, and that massive reform was needed, which included better disciplinary communications, clearer moderation guidelines, as well as less bias overall. There were also discussions about thinking about how big the server needed to be, with Andi and Saera thinking that the server had grown too big with some Staff feeling alienated from some members in the community. Another reform, later included, involved stricter citizen entry requirements. With Andi and Saera seeing that only older members remained the most active, three proposals were later made:		While the situation in Staff may have remained cool in other times, October-November also marked a shift for the page and server with multiple warnings as well as a shift in the server's activity, though for the latter this had been a trend for a few months. On November 16th, following another argument between flutters and Andi, Andi and Saera began to believ e that the server simply wasn't growing, and that massive reform was needed, which included better disciplinary communications, clearer moderation guidelines, as well as less bias overall. There were also discussions about thinking about how big the server needed to be, with Andi and Saera thinking that the server had grown too big with some Staff feeling alienated from some members in the community. Another reform, later included, involved stricter citizen entry requirements. With Andi and Saera seeing that only older members remained the most active, three proposals were later made:

	# Reform the server and make it appeal to a wider range of people.		# Reform the server and make it appeal to a wider range of people.

Card0: /* Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024) */

2026-05-11T09:14:11Z

Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024)

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	== Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024) ==		== Era of Strife (Februrary 2024-December 2024) ==
	From April 2024, and increasingly from July-August 2024 onwards, several reforms and new ideas were put forward in regards to the community and page. However, this era would mark some drama in the server, especially among the Staff team as significant disagreements became commonplace. ~~An initial atmosphere of reform, with channel reorganizations~~, new ~~ambassador roles~~, ~~and the creation of a Patreon—masked deep fissures~~ within the ~~staff~~ team		From April 2024, and increasingly from July-August 2024 onwards, several reforms and new ideas were put forward in regards to the community and page. However, this era would mark some drama in the server, especially among the Staff team as significant disagreements became commonplace. Initial reforms, as well as new ideas, were soon overshadowed by conflict within the Staff team.

	'''Staff during this period:'''		'''Staff during this period:'''

Card0: /* Frontier Era (February 2023-February 2024) */

2026-04-30T10:40:16Z

Frontier Era (February 2023-February 2024)

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	On January 25th 2025, after weeks of deliberation, Card0 announced he was, for the first time in years, expanding page access to 2 admins, those being the newly promoted [[Astra]] and [[greentea]]. These two Admins were also the first Admins with access to the page that didn’t come from the old WhatsApp group, with [[Lemontea]] and [[Salmon]] having page access from during the early period of the page.		On January 25th 2025, after weeks of deliberation, Card0 announced he was, for the first time in years, expanding page access to 2 admins, those being the newly promoted [[Astra]] and [[greentea]]. These two Admins were also the first Admins with access to the page that didn’t come from the old WhatsApp group, with [[Lemontea]] and [[Salmon]] having page access from during the early period of the page.

	=== ~~Minor~~ Follower Boom ===		=== Follower Boom ===
	February marked a pivotal moment for Hongkongggag as the page experienced a sudden surge in followers, riding a wave of renewed interest that swept across Hong Kong’s meme scene. New formats like viral starter packs roasting local schools and neighborhoods that resonated with people, while new reels capitalized on trending audio clips. Collaborations with pages like br0wnhub, majorcantotraits, chaoshongkong, and thehkobserver amplified reach, increasing the follower count of the page.		February marked a pivotal moment for Hongkongggag as the page experienced a sudden surge in followers, riding a wave of renewed interest that swept across Hong Kong’s meme scene. New formats like viral starter packs roasting local schools and neighborhoods that resonated with people, while new reels capitalized on trending audio clips. Collaborations with pages like br0wnhub, majorcantotraits, chaoshongkong, and thehkobserver amplified reach, increasing the follower count of the page.

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	=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===		=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===
	On Aprl 21st 2026, [[Card0]] made a sudden announcement in the morning (HKT) shortly after Nigel left the discord server during the early morrning.<blockquote>Hi guys, Nigel has resigned from Moderator and left the server due to private reasons</blockquote>He also mentioned that Nigel also resigned from Ambassador. As Nigel was a popular moderator and member of the server, many people speculated on what happened, with a few being insensitive, making fun of the situation. A day later, he put forward a second statement:<blockquote>sorry for the ping but with all the discussion that happened with Nigel's resignation, as well as people being very insensitive, I think its important to disclose the fact that he committed many inappropriate actions that crossed many physical boundaries that affected members of Staff and others in this community in real life. As such he resigned due to these reasons.		On Aprl 21st 2026, [[Card0]] made a sudden announcement in the morning (HKT) shortly after Nigel left the discord server during the early morrning.<blockquote>Hi guys, Nigel has resigned from Moderator and left the server due to private reasons</blockquote>He also mentioned that Nigel also resigned from Ambassador. As Nigel was a popular moderator and member of the server, many people speculated on what happened, with a few being insensitive, making fun of the situation. A day later, he put forward a second statement:<blockquote>sorry for the ping but with all the discussion that happened with Nigel's resignation, as well as people being very insensitive, I think its important to disclose the fact that he committed many inappropriate actions that crossed many physical boundaries that affected members of Staff and others in this community in real life. As such he resigned due to these reasons.



	We advise you to cut off ties with Nigel because of this, and not to joke around about this. While we acknowledge that Nigel has done a lot of good for the community, this does not erase the severity of his actions, which affected several people, including me personally.		We advise you to cut off ties with Nigel because of this, and not to joke around about this. While we acknowledge that Nigel has done a lot of good for the community, this does not erase the severity of his actions, which affected several people, including me personally.

Card0 at 10:37, 30 April 2026

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	* [[Aurelia]]		* [[Aurelia]]
	* [[TearCea]]		* [[TearCea]]
			* [[Darwin]]
	* [[Chzvii]]		* [[Chzvii]]
	* [[Tank]]		* [[Tank]]

Card0: /* October-November Staff Crisis */

2026-04-30T10:05:33Z

October-November Staff Crisis

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	Around 6pm HKT, 3 hours after Trump was all but confirmed as the victor, Card0 posted the statement on both platforms. While the reception to the statement was largely positive, the same could not be said for the page as many pro-Trump followers commented on the page, though several anti-Trump followers would share the post and like it. The post quickly reached thousands of comments and hundreds of likes, while also leading to 597 people unfollowing the page in one single day, the most in the page's history. However, Card0 later saw this as a victory, believing that with significantly less pro-Trump followers, the page would be further committed to progressive and left-wing ideals.		Around 6pm HKT, 3 hours after Trump was all but confirmed as the victor, Card0 posted the statement on both platforms. While the reception to the statement was largely positive, the same could not be said for the page as many pro-Trump followers commented on the page, though several anti-Trump followers would share the post and like it. The post quickly reached thousands of comments and hundreds of likes, while also leading to 597 people unfollowing the page in one single day, the most in the page's history. However, Card0 later saw this as a victory, believing that with significantly less pro-Trump followers, the page would be further committed to progressive and left-wing ideals.

	=== October-November Staff Crisis ===		=== [[October-November Staff Crisis]] ===
	For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.		For years, there had been disagreements between Card0, [[flutters]] and [[Andi]] on the direction of the server, with flutteres and Andi often criticising Card0 on many of his decisions, sometimes joined by other Staff. On many occassions, Card0 would back down or come to a compromise, with things usually being resolved relatively quickly. Despite their disagreements, when Card0 announced his stepback, he would designate flutters as his de-facto successor, with the plan for them to lead day to day operations of the server.

Card0: /* Resignation of Nigel */

2026-04-30T09:59:05Z

Resignation of Nigel

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	=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===		=== Resignation of [[Nigel]] ===
	On Aprl 21st 2026, [[Card0]] made a sudden announcement shortly after Nigel left the discord server:<blockquote>Hi guys, Nigel has resigned from Moderator and left the server due to private reasons</blockquote>He also mentioned that Nigel also resigned from Ambassador. As Nigel was a popular moderator and member of the server, many people speculated on what happened, with a few being insensitive, making fun of the situation. A day later, he put forward a second statement:<blockquote>sorry for the ping but with all the discussion that happened with Nigel's resignation, as well as people being very insensitive, I think its important to disclose the fact that he committed many inappropriate actions that crossed many physical boundaries that affected members of Staff and others in this community in real life. As such he resigned due to these reasons.		On Aprl 21st 2026, [[Card0]] made a sudden announcement in the morning (HKT) shortly after Nigel left the discord server during the early morrning.<blockquote>Hi guys, Nigel has resigned from Moderator and left the server due to private reasons</blockquote>He also mentioned that Nigel also resigned from Ambassador. As Nigel was a popular moderator and member of the server, many people speculated on what happened, with a few being insensitive, making fun of the situation. A day later, he put forward a second statement:<blockquote>sorry for the ping but with all the discussion that happened with Nigel's resignation, as well as people being very insensitive, I think its important to disclose the fact that he committed many inappropriate actions that crossed many physical boundaries that affected members of Staff and others in this community in real life. As such he resigned due to these reasons.



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	I apologise for not elaborating more yesterday, as I was still shaken by what had happened and I didn't know what I could share. But I feel like now is the time to be more transparent about this. I hope the community can heal and move on from this		I apologise for not elaborating more yesterday, as I was still shaken by what had happened and I didn't know what I could share. But I feel like now is the time to be more transparent about this. I hope the community can heal and move on from this

	For obvious reasons, please dont contact me or staff for any further personal questions</blockquote>This was met with some shock, with a few members also ~~dmming~~ Card0 to express ~~thier~~ condolences for what happened.		For obvious reasons, please dont contact me or staff for any further personal questions</blockquote>This was met with some shock, with a few members also privately messaging Card0 to express their condolences for what happened.

	=== The Seventh Rank ===		=== The Seventh Rank ===

Card0: /* Shadowban Crisis, New Moderators */

2026-04-30T09:57:11Z

Shadowban Crisis, New Moderators

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	jk this server is amazing. ive been here since 2021 which holy shit five years. for a long time it was a big part of my life, maybe even one of the most important things. ive made a lot of really happy memories here and met a lot of amazing people here. special thanks to @zt because im probably closest to you; im very happy to have found a friend this great through here. hopefully now that im gone cardo lets u take my place as admin. but it has been four years and this server has watched me grow a lot, move to two countries, and ive outgrown being active here although i still very much treasure this place.		jk this server is amazing. ive been here since 2021 which holy shit five years. for a long time it was a big part of my life, maybe even one of the most important things. ive made a lot of really happy memories here and met a lot of amazing people here. special thanks to @zt because im probably closest to you; im very happy to have found a friend this great through here. hopefully now that im gone cardo lets u take my place as admin. but it has been four years and this server has watched me grow a lot, move to two countries, and ive outgrown being active here although i still very much treasure this place.

	this will probably be the only time you ever hear me say this so listen up but you should appreciate card0 more. as the self proclaimed #1 cardo hater ik its rly fun to hate on him but he's done, obviously, an insane amount for this server. he's created a lgbtq friendly pandem english hk space, and he's put a lot of work into doing it. i		this will probably be the only time you ever hear me say this so listen up but you should appreciate card0 more. as the self proclaimed #1 cardo hater ik its rly fun to hate on him but he's done, obviously, an insane amount for this server. he's created a lgbtq friendly pandem english hk space, and he's put a lot of work into doing it.

	ts sad that i wont be able to fulfill my plan of taking over the server when cardo dies of stress bcs of us in a few years but honestly, this place is a shithole i ain't want it obviously i won't be leaving so if there's any events fun enough i will join. hit me up if u play val on hk servers or watch vct. thanks to staff and everyone for a very, very good four years. glory to yuutopia.</blockquote>In addition, reforms to the mod nomination process were passed with members now allowed to self-nominate, so long as they had backing from two members. [[Aurelia]] and [[Hill]] would also be promoted around the same time albeit under the old system, while [[Blep]] was promoted a month earlier.		its sad that i wont be able to fulfill my plan of taking over the server when cardo dies of stress bcs of us in a few years but honestly, this place is a shithole i ain't want it obviously i won't be leaving so if there's any events fun enough i will join. hit me up if u play val on hk servers or watch vct. thanks to staff and everyone for a very, very good four years. glory to yuutopia.</blockquote>In addition, reforms to the mod nomination process were passed with members now allowed to self-nominate, so long as they had backing from two members. [[Aurelia]] and [[Hill]] would also be promoted around the same time albeit under the old system, while [[Blep]] was promoted a month earlier.

	=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===		=== Reform of Meetup Rules ===

Card0: /* Hongkongggag Renaissance (December 2024-December 2025) */

2026-04-30T07:16:12Z

Hongkongggag Renaissance (December 2024-December 2025)

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	* [[Yuma]]		* [[Yuma]]
	* [[Vespera/MV3 no.1 fan]]		* [[Vespera/MV3 no.1 fan]]
			* [[Thunderstruck]]
	* [[bleu]]		* [[bleu]]
	* [[g.l.a.c.e]]		* [[g.l.a.c.e]]
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	* [[ryku.5000.2]]		* [[ryku.5000.2]]
	* [[dunkleosteus_fan_2.0_59404]]		* [[dunkleosteus_fan_2.0_59404]]
			* [[Pengyou]]

	=== Scheduled Events Policy ===		=== Scheduled Events Policy ===

Card0: /* Outreach Era (January 2026-Present) */

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Outreach Era (January 2026-Present)

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	Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Greentea, Salami, Joyce		Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Greentea, Salami, Joyce

	Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro~~, Greentea~~, zt~~, Astra~~, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba, Salami, Livie, Chris~~, Thoth~~, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Nigel, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb		Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro, zt, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba, Salami, Livie, Chris, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Nigel, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb

	Promotions: Nigel, Syntax, Joyce (December 2024), Expired Potato (May 2025), Asianbarb (July 2025)		Promotions: Nigel, Syntax, Joyce (December 2024), Expired Potato (May 2025), Asianbarb (July 2025)

	Resignations: Saera (January 2025), Sage (May 2025), Sayonara (July 2025)		Resignations: Saera (January 2025), Thoth (February 2025), Sage (May 2025), Sayonara (July 2025)

	'''Notable members who joined during this era:'''		'''Notable members who joined during this era:'''
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	Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Salami, Joyce, Boba		Admins: Lemontea, Salmon, Tolmo, Bossuuu, Jasper, Astra, Salami, Joyce, Boba

	Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro~~, Greentea~~, zt~~, Astra~~, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba~~, Salami~~, Livie, Chris~~, Thoth~~, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb, Blep, Hill, Aurelia		Moderators: Lieutenant.Quattro, zt, Polaris, Sumii, Ame, Saera, Boba, Livie, Chris, Ame, Sleepy, Tuck, Syntax, Expired Potato, Asianbarb, Blep, Hill, Aurelia

	Promotions: Blep (March 2026), Hill, Aurelia (April 2026)		Promotions: Blep (March 2026), Hill, Aurelia (April 2026)

Card0: /* Reform & Expansion Era (March 2021-May 2022) */

2026-04-30T06:25:48Z

Reform & Expansion Era (March 2021-May 2022)

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